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(@rowsella)
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At least 5 times I keep getting pinged whenever I see or read about Giuliani, Mulvaney, Pompeo, in relation to Trump "they will all go down together" that song by Billy Joel which is actually about something very different. That one line and spirit tells me it is meant in the literal sense... they will all go down together. This fits with the nature of Trump.

Also pinging... watched "The Irishman" on Netflix, a very long mob movie directed by Martin Scorsese. It's about the events leading up to and after the disappearance of Jimmy Hoffa; also the politics with the Kennedys'. One thing is interesting, the appointment of Robert Kennedy as his brother's Attorney General, that it was controversial and I can only imagine what we would say if Trump did the same thing. Also, Hoffa continually calling him "Boobie Kennedy" reminded me so much of Trump and even of politics today because many people call him "Drumpf" etc. Although, in my mind, while we are all guilty of name-calling" the behavior of the person in office of the President is truly held to a higher standard.

Now, it is all fiction. This is not a "true story" however, it is a reflection of the corruption of that time which also mirrors the corruption of our time. The indication is that government and big business took over the role of organized crime (they basically jailed/chased out the Mob and demonized and outlawed much of Big Labor... in effect winning the turf war and honestly, if I know one thing, Hoffa would have never allowed the conditions that Bezos runs in his warehouses to exist--not even close). It is really a story of double-crossing, arrogance, greed, ego and ruthlessness. Hoffa "disappeared" after making a lot of accusations and pointing fingers and basically behaving in an unhinged manner. Most everyone involved, even peripherally went to prison--even on diminished charges and/or were killed.

It was kind of a reminder of the real consequences. Then I read this article in Vanity Fair about the Nixon impeachment and aftermath. https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/11/trumps-toadies-should-take-note-watergate-says-everyone-goes-down

I really feel that all the Democratic candidates need to do is stay out of their own way. Perhaps as the field narrows, the message will be more cogent, focused and clear.

 



   
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(@suspira44)
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it was controversial that JFK chose his brother, and as a result, the Post Act was passed in 1967 forbidding it. That's why we have no relatives of Trump working in the White House now. HA HA



   
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(@unk-p)
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O'Malley slams acting DHS deputy: ‘You cage children for a fascist president’

Former Maryland governor and 2016 Democratic presidential candidate forced Ken Cuccinelli to leave Capitol Hill bar

Donald Trump’s acting deputy secretary of homeland security was called “the son of immigrant grandparents who cages children for a fascist president” on Wednesday night, by a man who forced him to leave a Capitol Hill bar on Thanksgiving eve.

That man was Martin O’Malley, former Baltimore mayor, governor of Maryland and candidate for the Democratic presidential nomination in 2016.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EKblvU9WoAIio_4.jpg

It was the latest in a string of incidents in which angry opponents of Trump have confronted members of his administration in public.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EKblvU-WkAAi9Pu.jpg

and, yo!, Donnie, this image was *not* photoshopped

-from The Guardian, today

 



   
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(@cindy)
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reminded me so much of Trump and even of politics today because many people call him "Drumpf" etc. 

 

There are many nicknames given to him. However this one isn't a nickname, it's his original family name until the 30 years war back in the 1600s-according to a biographer who wrote a book about the family back in 2000. They were wine makers in the day from Kallstadt-at the time part of Bavaria (now Germany). There is dispute about whether it is accurate, as records have not been found to substantiate the claim. There are other versions of the name from the past that are also possible as the family name before it was Anglicized. What is not in dispute is that when grandfather Fred came to the US at the age of 16 (signed the registers as Trumpf) in 1885,  he had not served his mandatory Bavarian military service, thus making it an illegal immigration. He worked as a barber in NY for 6 years, then moved to Seattle where he owned and operated a restaurant serving liquor and a convenient brothel upstairs for years. He moved around in the northwest, following the gold rush and miners, so that he had a steady line of customers for his restaurant/boarding houses/brothels. In some cases he got the land thru shady deals. When the law started finally showed signs of cracking down on such illicit trades, Fred sold his shares of the business to his partner, and returned to Germany. He was well to do by then. He married, and he and his wife set off for NY, again opening a boarding house, and starting to dabble in the hotel field. So it is family tradition to disregard the law, or think they're above it. Fred C. (45's father)  was no different, tho most of his illegal dealings were in real estate. Fred C. was arrested in NY during a KKK march, and suffered many investigations for profiteering.  



   
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 PamP
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@deetoo

I stopped trusting polls years ago when I had a couple of statistics classes in college and we learned how they actually work. I don't know who said "Live by the polls, die by the polls" but they were right. 



   
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(@mas1581)
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I just read that the Trump campaign is now denying that the "Rocky" twitter post was doctored( . https://www-newsweek-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-campaign-disputes-picture-president-rocky-doctored-1474789?amp_js_v=a2&amp_gsa=1&amp=1&usqp=mq331AQCKAE%3D#aoh=15751341980463&csi=1&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.newsweek.com%2Fdonald-trump-campaign-disputes-picture-president-rocky-doctored-1474789 )

Is this a joke or do they really want us to believe that? If this is what they are trying to convince people of, we are one step from North Korea, where they still insist that Kim Jong Un doesnt defecate because he is greater than normal humans and doesnt need to partake in anything vile like that.



   
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(@polarberry)
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If I'm not mistaken, Jeanne had some predictions a while back that made reference to phony images of Twitler being presented to the American people, propaganda-like, showing him as some infallible strongman, to hide his real-life physical and mental decline.



   
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(@laura-f)
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I remember those predictions as well.  It's not surprising. EVERYTHING that comes out of the WH at this point is a distraction. EVERY. THING.



   
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@mas1581

Sometimes the JPost prints conspiracy theories, and this looks like one of them. The clue is their claim that only Muslim Brotherhood calls Ilhan "Sister Ilhan". Muslims call any member of their faith brother or sister, in the same way that many Christian sects call their members brother or sister. If they didn't know that basic fact, I'm extremely skeptical of the entire article.



   
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(@jeanne-mayell)
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@polarberry.  Regarding the visions I had last year of Trump posting doctored youthful images of himself. Here: https://www.jeannemayell.com/18245-2/

"In the visions, I see plastic and fake images of him rather than Trump himself. The images he and his followers show are more youthful versions of him. ... Since writing this post, he appeared at one of his rallies and described himself as having looked when he was younger like Elvis Preseley.  So it’s ironic that I’d seen him during my meditation all sweaty with drool on his mouth, like the debauched Elvis in his last year of life." -- posted 12.29.18

 



   
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