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(@triciact)
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@deetoo

and @lawrence

Funny because my husband and I have said the same thing all along. As a matter of fact I saw an interview with Howard Stern who shortly after T was elected Stern commented that he thought it was a big mistake for T to be President and that he was worried about his friend. Stern should have worried about all of us!

One of the things I felt about T and Putin though is that I think that Putin hatched the plan to have T run for a while. I feel like it was part of Putin's plan and T owed him big time so he had to run.

 



   
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(@jeanne-mayell)
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Posted by: @yofisofi

"Everything T. touches dies." -- I hope that does not include the U.S. democracy!

Every reading I've done on the mid twenties shows a resurgence in the U.S. of democratic values.  The democracy will have been battered, as many feel it is now, but it will hold. One reader in our group saw that after progressives return, it will be like a post war reparation period. 



   
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The White House was on lockdown because of a UFO. They don't know what it was. One thought was a flock of birds showing on radar, but they said it hovered. Birds don't hover. They might circle though. So why would UFOs be interested in the White House or trump? 



   
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Bones and trees are similar to our democracy. It's been proven that when kids jump their bones bend slightly and that makes the bones stronger. Same with trees, when they bend in the wind or storm, they grow stronger. In trees it's called the axiom of uniform stress. To make a tree grow stronger, it's not just at the point of growth-but the entire tree. To grow a branch or strengthen the trunk, the root system too grows.  It's nature. It's natural. 

The stress and fractures that are occurring in our democracy are ultimately going to make our democracy stronger. Weak points are being found, loop holes will be closed, thinking for many will be realigned. So Rick Perry may be right. Rumpus may have been chosen to show the weaknesses and corruption that needed to be exposed to make our democracy stronger in the long run. It's not unlike the Civil War. It did plenty of damage, but in the long run it was for the greater good. 

 



   
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Hey, Ari Melber just featured a short audio blurb from an interview between trump and Bill O'Reilly, of all people.  I think the interview was done today, 11/26.  Anyway, it turned out to be actual news because during the interview trump throws his former BFF, America's Mayor, Rudy Ghouliani right under the bus.  For starters, trump says Rudy WASN'T working under his (trump's) direction.  Rudy did what???  trump also claims Rudy had other clients in the Ukraine, not just him, and he had no idea what all Rudy was doing over there. 

This is the part that amazes me.  Inspite of the fact that it never works, everyone who sells self out for trump always thinks he/she is going to be the special exempt one who earns trump's loyalty and protection.  Huh?  Good thing Rudy's got his so-called insurance.  He's gonna need it.  

Pompeo made the news today too.  Pompeo had a brief press conference where he wasn't all huffy and arrogant, a genuine first.  As always, he avoided answering most questions except the one about it being his duty to investigate the reported Ukraine role in the 2016 election.  More conspiracy theories and gaslighting for us, but at least it was delivered with a smile and in a surprisingly pleasant way. Maybe all the headlines about Pompeo being a coward and the worst Secretary of State in history is getting to him.  



   
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@kb

Soon Guiliani is going to be part of that club of who? I didn’t really know him, We were never close. I don’t know when was the last time I spoke to him it’s been years. 



   
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How ironic!  What is Trump going to do now?  Threaten these aliens with his border wall?  I can just see him right now sending a tweet to Fox News.  "THESE ALIENS ARE TRYING TO FLY OVER....MY BEAUTIFUL BORDER WALL!  WE NEED TO BUID IT....HIGHER!"

(Note:  In order to be an authentic Trump Tweet, one must always have misspelled words, lots of dots halfway through sentences, and all caps to show he is shouting.)



   
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Did anyone hear NPR's interview with the heads of Fusion GPS, the firm that was investigating Trump and contracted with UK M15 agent Christopher Steele to write what was called the Steele Dossier when Trump was running for office?    You can here it here. https://www.npr.org/2019/11/26/783030482/inside-the-steele-dossier-the-fusion-gps-investigation-of-trump

 



   
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@jeanne-mayell

That was an interesting interview for sure,  Thank you!



   
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I just saw that Reuters published an article claiming that support for impeachment has increased steadily during the hearings. It points to a small but steady increase and they included their methodology (online poling - not just landlines), which usually helps to understand how they achieved their results. I tend to look at poling cautiously, but I do think that it is helpful in understanding trends - especially if there are several to compare. 

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-impeachment-poll/net-support-for-impeachment-grew-steadily-during-u-s-congressional-hearings-poll-shows-idUSKBN1Y02MO



   
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