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https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/06/22/us/politics/senate-health-care-whip-count.html

This stuff is sick. GOP has outed themselves as a bunch of psychopaths.

And when a bunch of disabled and sick people protested outside McConnell's office, he had Capitol police literally drag them out. Then he laughed about it.

Anyone who said there was a darkness around McConnell, you were absolutely right. He's evil.



   
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Remember the unapologetic voters who gave us these fascists, I can never forget those people. It's hard to think that the republican party might never have to pay for their crimes. There's something sinister there that's very deep, I think Zoron cryptically hinted at one time that decades ago they were infiltrated by the remnants of the Nazis. 



   
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McConnell: Of all the GOP leaders, He leaves me the most cold. I have to look away from his photos.  Whenever I see his face, I think of Joseph Conrad's description of evil in his 1899 masterpiece Heart of Darkness:

"I've seen the devil of violence, the devil of greed, and the devil of hot desire; but, by all the stars! these were strong, lusty, red-eyed devils, that swayed and drove men - men, I tell you. But as I stood on this hillside, I foresaw that in the blinding sunshine of that land I would become acquainted with a flabby, pretending, weak-eyed devil of a rapacious and pitiless folly. How insidious he could be, too, I was only to find out several months later and a thousand miles farther." (1.37)

 

If you want to read a short masterpiece that fits the GOP leadership and the oligarchs who control them, read Heart of Darkness. These people have been on this planet a long time. 



   
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Natalie, right there with you, hon.

Jeanne, that was perfect. Creepy, but perfect description of the GOP right now.

Belle, I believe Jesus himself made a sermon about his words being seeds and some people would be hard ground where the seeds wouldn't penetrate...yeah. :/



   
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I get scary feeling that if this passes, those that participated in this are gonna be in serious danger. Manure, meet very big fan.



   
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When you say danger, do you mean the gop lawmakers, the voters or the protesters. Im just wondering what you mean.



   
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I mean the GOP lawmakers. I don't see people taking this lying down and only the hardcore followers will believe anything they have to say. Sick, scary feeling coming out of this. 

Last vision pow wow, Jeanne said she saw the elderly marching en masse. I can see this being the impetus, but I think a lot of these people will be armed.



   
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I know I sound dense, but what you're describing sounds like a vision. I can see violence happening too, but the thought of a large armed mob is something truly scary, even if they're on the side of good.



   
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More like picking up on the collective emotion if this thing passes. The anger is there, but it's simmering in the air, like gas fumes. All it's gonna need is a spark. 

Say, Natalie, what's your email? Any way to contact you privately?



   
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[email deleted] you can send me private messages here



   
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from wikipedia:

Mitch McConnell was born on February 20, 1942, in Sheffield, Alabama, and raised as a young child in nearby Athens.[9] McConnell is the son of Addison Mitchell McConnell, and his wife, Julia (née Shockley). McConnell is of Scots-Irish and English descent. As a youth, he overcame polio.[10] ?? ???????? ?????????? ???????? ????????? ?? ??? ???? ??????? ????????? ???? ????? ??? ???? ????? ???????? ??? ??? ???? ?? ??? ????.

 

What's with McConnell & Ryan. They both received gov't. help and are where they are today because of it but it was only good for them and not the rest of us?

 



   
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http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-40385385  

I don't even know what to say about Trump supporters, they seem such a sad bunch, deluding themselves as they are. What will happen to them after all their hopes are dashed, they'll suffer the worst. 

Brandy it is just sick how the GOP behaves and thinks, incomprehensible for someone like me. The only thing I think might explain it is a diagnosis of sociopathy, meaning an inability to feel empathy that's wired into the brain. A lot of people who are attracted to power have that condition, and there is statistically more CEO's and politicians like that then there are in the general population. He is just evil, but I don't think he's even capable of seeing himself this way. 



   
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Do you think it will pass, Jeanne? I really hope that grassroots energy will kill this terrible, terrible bill.



   
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Just so everyone knows, polio care at Warm Springs was privately funded, not government. Check it on snopes.com.



   
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Quiet,  when I read your question just now, I heard in my head, "Something will pass."  I also heard that the GOP is putting tremendous pressure on their members to pass it.  Backroom threats from GOP leadership to members, like "we will put someone in your place, run someone against you and finance them and you will lose your seat."  Those who oppose the bill are going to feel very alone, like the Senator from Maine.   I do feel something will pass and we are on the precipice of a dark period. 



   
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While I agree with you that we are on the "precipice of a dark period",  it just seems to me that throughout our history (US) we would only act when things got very, very bad. I tell my friends that things will get worse before they get better.



   
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What's with McConnell & Ryan. They both received gov't. help and are where they are today because of it but it was only good for them and not the rest of us?

Brandy - McConnell and Ryan are all about denial and enriching themselves personally. Empathy is for their own personal kin only. As for anyone own the GOP taking government subsidies for themselves and denying them to others, GOP policies have been welfare for the rich for decades. So many examples, can't even begin -- the fossil fuel industry gets huge subsidies, country clubs all over America get tax-free status for their golf courses, hedge fund earners have a 15% cap on their income, while everyone else pays up to 50% taxes on the margin.  Chris Rock did a comedy routine on how pissed off everyone would be if they  had any clue about all the free stuff rich people get. The Military Industrial Complex and the Pharmaceutical Industry (to name just two of many) through lobbyists and donations to politicians get huge financial gifts and favoritism. We have fought wars in which tens of thousands of innocent people and our own young people died and were maimed for life just so the Military Industrial Complex will get to make tons of money in the war business  (see Halliburton and the Iraq War). 



   
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What was that about them being decadent and out of touch, Jeanne?

https://www.google.com/amp/www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/paul-ryan-says-i-would-not-bet-against-mitch-mcconnell-on-health-care-bill/

www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/amp/paul-ryan-explains-why-22-million-will-be-uninsured-he-n777186

https://www.google.com/amp/www.mediaite.com/tv/paul-ryan-the-left-is-out-of-gas-they-just-resist-resist-resist/amp/

Something tells me him and his ilk are in for a rude azz awakening...



   
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