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This has been such a difficult time for Mueller.

I realized tonight that it had been awhile since I thought of Mueller, the human being.   I briefly lost sight of this person who has the weight of the nation on his shoulders.   He will need a great deal of love and light to battle through testifying in front of congress and whatever else is thrown in his path.   His family will need these things  as well because they will be  his rock, his inspiration when he can't see the light or feel the love or questions the path he is walking.  

May Mueller walk the path of a heart warrior with the love, prayers, thoughts and light of a grateful nation.  A grateful world.  We are living in a time of greatness, we just may not know it yet.  He is our present day  Lincoln,  MKL, Washington,  Churchill, Rosa Parks , and Sojourner Truth.  Imperfect human beings who inspired a nation during dark times.

I will visualize the Lady of Justice balancing  her scales, guiding Mueller down a brilliant path of  light  radiating through  her fiercely held sword .  



   
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Yogagirl, you gave me the first smile I've had in a while about this stuff (and a little tear). Thank you, typos and all. 



   
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I agree we all need to send all the good vibes, light and courage we can send to Mueller.  It's awful to think what they (the Reps) have done to this fine man.  It's going to take a lot of guts to testify when the Dictator of the US and His handler Vlad want to arrest him.  I think he will testify and I think it will be a HUGH blow to Barr and Trump.  This last trick with Putin and North Korea has put Trump in a very dark light.  I believe he thinks he is equal to those evil bastards but I also believe they are laughing at him.  NK sent test missles flying at Japan, one of our allies, just to test Trump and his loyalties.  Trump fell into line and  praised NK.  

Remember when G W Bush named his "axis of evil" and all the Reps cheered?  Remember when Mitch called Vlad a "thug"?  It's amazing what a lot of money will do!  

This will be a rough week.  I hope that the Dems grow a spine and charge Barr with contemp and then follow through with the Federal Marshalls. I believe that is  who will be in charge of arresting him but I may be wrong.

One other thing before I go outside and weed my garden for the THIRD time this spring.  Has anyone gotten any intuition on the 14 other investigations that Mueller handed off and are still on going?  (I believe that is what I heard).  I heard a very interesting theory on those.  Someone I am in book club with whose husband is a procecuter stated her husbands theory is one of them has to do with Justice Kennedy stepping down.  His son works for Deuch (?) bank and has had dealings withTrumpa  and his minions (my name for his off spring) .  Supposedly a week before he stepped down Ivanka went to see him.  My friend believes they have proof that promises were made for protection of the son if he stepped down so he could be replaced by someone more approved of by the administration.  Just a theory but an interesting one.

Well we only have one day of sunshine this week so I have to go take advantage.  Peace be with you.



   
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Yogagirl: I had a flash when reading your last post about the Deutsch Bank /Justice Kennedy theory, there were a couple credible youtube psychics who said a while back (and continue to say it) that Kavanaugh won't last. I have given up on even thinking about that since he is there and has been now for a while. But when reading your post it hit me how he could possibly be removed - if what you say comes true/out then I wonder if that would affect his appointment?  I also wonder when DJT does go down (not by impeachment) but I personally always saw the MONEY as the reason (follow the money...) if what comes out affects many things he did, if perhaps it nullifies some of what he installed while in office.  I also get the feeling Kushner will be affected by wherever the money trail leads....Wondering if anyone else sees anything about this?

Lets pray for Mueller and that his testimony rocks DJT's world and exposes him and his minions...pray for his safety and that he tells us the truth and ALL the truth!

 



   
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Posted by: Jeanne Mayell

It will push us towards the vision I saw long ago of our country breaking up into regions.  I will continue this discussion in this thread - How the Scotus Census question will affect our next elections.

I had chills when I read this part. Some years ago (4+ years) a good friend of mine who was extremely psychic and sensitive told me there was a good possibility that this would happen. So to hear you say it as well Jeanne is fascinating.

They said the states would likely move to become more self-governing, almost like independent states, and even the possibility of civil war at some point. I admit I dismissed the idea at the time, I just couldn't see that happening. But that's what they saw (and this person was rarely wrong in their insights). But I never in my wildest dreams would I have ever believed DT would one day become president either and here we are!!!

You never know what is around the corner...



   
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The Mueller Report has an unfortunate twist that opened the report up for the president's enablers, especially the Attorney General, to distort the findings and make it look like the president was cleared of wrongdoing.  

...we determined not to apply an approach that could potentially result in a judgment that the President committed crimes.-- The Mueller Report page 213

Mueller decided  not to follow normal prosecutorial procedures to make a judgement about the president's guilt because of an Office of Legal Counsel opinion. His reasoning is convoluted and opened him up to GOP exploitation.: 

  1.  It was a given that a sitting president may not be indicted. [Me to community: I'm not clear who decided this?]
  2. Since the president can't be indicted, then the special investigator can not make any judgement about the president's guilt during his investigation.
  3. He can't make a judgement about guilt because if he did so then the president would not be able to defend himself in court, because there wouldn't be trial.  He also felt that it would be nearly impossible for Trump to get a fair trial in the future because of the public nature of the investigation.

In other words, it wouldn't be fair to  Donald Trump.  

(4) So in the end, Mueller concluded that he could not charge the president  with anything, although he also wrote that he could not exonerate him. 

Mueller was counting on a just system, not the Wild West that we have right now. 

Of course he makes it clear that the president can be indicted after he leaves office, and he says he provided the facts that they found so a prosecutor could use them in the future.  

It was an unfortunate decision for our country, given how the Republican spin machine reacts. It fits the dreams Bluebelle and I each had about Mueller being wounded and unable to finish the job. 

 

 



   
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My question is why does everyone say we can't indict a sitting president? I googled the question and many law blogs claim you can, that there is nothing in the constitution that says a sitting POTUS can't be indicted for a serious crime.  I wonder why this issue is not being discussed by the dems too? 



   
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TriciaCT, that's right that the Constitution does not prohibit a sitting president from being criminally indicted. The prohibition comes from a DOJ policy written in 1973 amidst the Watergate scandal. The DOJ thought it would imperil democracy and violate the separation of powers (because removal of a president should be left to Congress, who has the power of impeachment). The policy is binding on DOJ employees (for now). 

Also, Jeanne, I meant to say that there are some credible rumors coming from prosecutors who read the Mueller memo that indicate that Barr DID end the Mueller investigation early, so you probably have a hit on that as well.

And has everyone seen that 370+ federal prosecutors (from both parties) have signed a statement saying that Mueller's findings would have led to charges of obstruction of justice against the president were it not for the aforementioned DOJ policy? Just remember, he can still be indicted if he is voted out.



   
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Jeanne and BlueBelle,

I heard Rachel Maddow say on two separate occasions last week that Mueller may have been told to close his investigation sooner than he had planned, shortly after Barr was confirmed, possibly in March.  If that ends up being true, then that speaks to the dreams you both had concerning Mueller.  I've also had a strong feeling that Mueller was told to "wrap it up" sooner than what he had intended.  Rachel said reporters were further investigating that information and she would come back with an update.  The last thing I heard her say about the topic is that Congress might ask Mueller that question when he comes to testify.  I certainly hope so.



   
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I've had a knowing for years now and these past few weeks that knowing has been pounding in my head that the Republicans will do everything they can to stay in power - even if it means breaking the Constitution, as long as they can get away with it.  I don't know if I'm saying anything new here, but it's so strong in my psyche that I thought it best to post it.  I am confident that their reign will end down the road, but I feel they will not give Trump or their power away without resorting to extraordinary actions first. 

Regarding the Mueller Report, they will in the short term prevent this president's crimes from being exposed and try to keep him in office throughout this term.  They will do everything they can to prevent the House of Representatives from exposing him. They will prohibit anyone including Mueller from testifying.  They will fail to show up for any hearings that they deem to be not legally required and if they do show up, they will demur and lie.  They will walk the knife edge of law.  

They will fabricate legal arguments and push the envelope of the Constitution as far as they can.  If they have to break the Constitution, they will, as long as they convince some people that what they are doing is legal and ultimately the Supreme Court will decide what is legal. 

 I see that there are predictions from Read the Future nights that Trump is going down soon. I wish I could see that.  

As for the Mueller decision that they cannot indict a sitting president, there are opposing opinions on this issue. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia-indictment-explainer/can-a-sitting-us-president-face-criminal-charges-idUSKCN1QF1D3



   
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The Founders were clear - if tyrants take power, overthrow them. It's unfortunate that the revolutionary spirit is dead, the only vestige of it is the right-wing nutbar desire to install theocracy.



   
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Deliverance comes down to the elections. With a blue wave in the whole Congress, he will be removed from office and then prosecuted. With a blue wave in the Congress,  progressive judges will be confirmed. We need to have a blue wave or else we are in for four more years.  Still I am confident, not just hoping but confident, that the trump/GOP nightmare will end and that it will wash clean so much that’s gone wrong over the past 40 years.  



   
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I've had some thoughts on what is happening and so I hope it's ok to post them here.  I was convinced that Mueller's report was going to be Twitler's undoing, and was heartsick when Barr was confirmed, as it seemed pretty obvious why Twitler wanted him and why Barr auditioned for the job in the first place.

I don't normally discuss religion because I am highly respectful of people's beliefs, or non-beliefs, as the case may be.  I am a rapture-believing Christian who loathes Donald Trump.  It is beyond my comprehension how anyone who says they are Christian could support this unbelievably evil man.  But of late, I have been wondering if the visions that Jeanne and others have had of a healed, loving world are post-rapture.

I can't stop thinking about what the blind Bosnian psychic  predicted about Twitler being the last American president.  I don't know if she was credible.  But either that meant he will declare himself dictator, or that this is it.

Anyway, Jeanne is correct about the Repubs.  They will use any means necessary to stay in power.  They have long stopped caring about democracy or patriotism or principle or morals.  They sold the USA for profit and they are fine with it



   
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      One of the major problems I can see clearly with respect to religious influences is that far too many Christian pastors have focused on what Donald Trump has promised to do for the Christian community while ignoring the critical issue of moral character. Historically the churches were supposed to provide moral leadership. Far too many churches today are focused instead on how much money they can get from their congregations and how they can best avoid paying taxes. Trump's promises to do away with the Johnson amendment appeals greatly to many of them. They are not remotely interested in Trump's cruel and inhumane treatment of many innocent people, his extreme dishonesty, his unbridled greed, and his blatant abuse of power.



   
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I just had dinner with an old friend I haven't seen in 5+ years. We are both atheist-leaning BUT we had a long discussion on the nature of evil and how modern Christians in particular seem to have a very hard time seeing it, acknowledging it, and then acting appropriately.

Maybe it's like that old movie quote - The Devil's greatest trick was convincing humanity that he doesn't exist.

I don't believe in Satan, but I do believe in evil, evil intentions, and how evil can affect someone's moral character in bad ways, which in turn can affect everyone else.



   
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I think you are referring to Baba Vanga?  She said the 44th president would be the last.  With all the speculation of Russian interference and that Hillary actually won, it could be that Trump's presidency is vacated and annulled.  Not sure what replaces it...

Baba Vanga - wikipedia -
Another prediction attributed to her is that the 44th President of the United States would be the country's last Commander-in-chief.[26][31][32] While Donald Trump's inauguration in 2017 has seemingly debunked this prediction, it should be noted that Trump is technically the 44th person to occupy the office - due to the fact that both the 22nd and 24th presidency were occupied by Grover Cleveland.[33][circular reference] Vanga's supporters also claimed that she predicted the 45th president will be with a "messianic personality", who will be faced with a crisis that eventually "brings the country down".[34][35][36]

Regarding messianic personality - per wikipedia (again)

Adolf Hitler is considered to have had an acute case of the messiah complex. This was evident in his preoccupation with himself as a political actor, his meticulous concern for his self-presentation, and his identification with himself as the savior of the German people.[4] Hitler believed that he was fated to lead Germany to a thousand-year-long period of European domination and that he was chosen to rid Europe of undesirable people.[5] This example shows how the messiah complex in such rare individuals can cause unimaginable destruction when combined with narcissistic and paranoid traits.[5]

To compare Trump and Hitler isn't a big stretch, is it?  Propoganda?  Divisiveness?  Trampling over rule of law?  Persecution of minority groups, the press, opponents......



   
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Oh, and looking at it - It say "Commander in Chief", not President!  It could be that one of the things that changes is that the Presidents going forward lose the "Commander in Chief" designation, so they don't control the military decisions.



   
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Regarding the psychic who supposedly predicted that Obama would be the last American President —no one knows what the blind psychic Baba Vanga predicted. She and her followers never wrote anything down and the woman who was her handler said that a lot of  phony predictions were attributed to her.  They hype her like they do Nostradamus to sell clicks and books.

As I recalled from reading the quote attributed to  her about the  “last American President” prediction, it  was part of a racist prediction against Obama in which she  implied that the evil black president would cause the end of democracy.



   
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I read about her but never knew whether she was for real or not.  Just find it ironic that she supposedly said that when Dictator Donnie makes no secret of the fact that he wants to play at being President for life.

I miss President and First Lady Obama so much.  Those were good times.



   
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I felt in a reading back in December that Trump was facing a blue wave in Congress in 2020.  But I want to add that even if we don’t get that blue wave in 2020, I have high confidence that the Trump/GOP nightmare will end by mid to late 2020’s and a beautiful hopeful time will arise where progressives work together to redress the wrongs.  

I feel the need to repeat this feeling because people write to me after I post predictions and they have strong reactions that aren’t fitting what I felt when I made those predictions.  It is not easy for me to accurately express the full nature of visions i get when i meditate. Then when someone responds to what I wrote I realize that the actual message I got from spirit was more nuances than how I expressed it.   



   
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