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(@vestralux)
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Posted by: @teacup

Hi everyone, I’ve been a long time lurker and finally decided to join the conversation ?

Does anyone have a read on if / when QAnon will be exposed? Even if T leaves office ? that still leaves a lot of dangerous conspiracy theories floating around. 

Welcome @teacup! I'm scarcely around of late, but so happy to see lurkers finally posting. ?

As to your question:

Our intelligence community already knows precisely what Q is, and many former directors and others have been advising and warning the American people that this could happen for a while now. In every way, it appears to be a massive psy-op, constructed and deployed by god knows who, but my guess is that it links back to our archest international foe.

All roads lead to ... FSB/GRU.

Americans only thought we won the Cold War. But how does one win a war in which the enemy weaves themselves further underground and—armed with cyber and AI and advanced social engineering capacities—can go on fighting indefinitely, f*&k our little sanctions and embargos? 

The dark irony is that they've used the CIA's own tactics here. For them, it's a hilarious but purposeful con. The conceit of Americans is that we have forever held ourselves to be morally, not just economically or militaristically, superior to all others. So, they've used our ingrained moral compunction against us. Who doesn't hate a pedophile, much less a plague of them?

The end game is always the same, whether Americans are conducting the ops or anyone else is. Sow discord; create chaos. Cause mass distrust and polarization to spread, such that one's enemy implodes of its own accord. Divided we fall, right?

The trouble with an operation like Q, however, is that it's another Stuxnet in nature. It can't be contained. Once you've opened that box, you've guaranteed that all those nasty brain-washing goblins will fly out and... spread. And if you happen to reign over an oligarchy, you've really screwed yourself in the gambit.   



   
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(@vestralux)
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Posted by: @jeanne-mayell

While Madoff himself has remained intact, although in prison, his son could not handle the steep fall that the family endured, and he took his own life, leaving his own two year old son with out a father to guide him. 

Jeanne, your entire post here was phenomenal. But more amazingly, you seem to have threaded Fate's needle. Here's why...

I was actually the one (Rosie couldn't remember) who'd posted a vision (not a dream) of Don Jr. inside a high rise and luxuriously appointed apartment, sobbing himself sick. He looked panic-stricken. When Rosie shared her dream, we were totally taken by surprise at how similar they were. I actually woke up with that vision on my mind again yesterday. 

However, I DID have a dream that connects even more to your post above, and which I posted here sometime last year or before. You actually replied to me at the time about it. In the dream, I was outside a large construction trailer, the sort that large engineering & construction companies erect on the site of a major build, to be used as an office. It was night. There was a sinister feeling of foreboding as I tried to peer into the windows (so I was effectively only an observer). It was dark inside the building except for a distant light, coming from an adjoining room. And there were rows and rows of high metal shelves (like a labyrinth!). Ivanka Trump was inside this room, trying to hide in a dark corner.

Then, I could see the hoofed feet of a Minotaur enter the room! It was very very tall and I could hear it snorting/sniffing to find her. And I could feel Ivanka's terror. That's all I remember.

But that's not the only thread you've connected:

In the original post of my vision about Don Jr. sobbing desperately in the high rise apartment, I also shared that I felt something about it could be connected to a tragedy with one of his own sons. That was because I saw a flash of a boy sitting alone in the back of a very nice car just before I saw the image of Don Jr. in the apartment. Now you've just brought it home by referencing Madoff's son—and grandson. 

Very very interesting. And a clear example of how our myths (archetypal stories) perpetually repeat.



   
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@deetoo

Out of all the books about #45 that have been written, Always Too Much and Never Enough is the only one I have any interest in reading. As someone who's trying to understand wetiko - the disease of separation - I think reading about T's relationship with his father will be instructive. But I've decided I won't read the book until the wetiko-in-chief is out of the White House.



   
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(@earthangel)
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@coyote Are you joining the circle tonight, I hope? 



   
(@coyote)
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@earthangel

I'm trying to, but Zoom isn't letting me. Tells me the meeting ID is invalid.



   
(@jeanne-mayell)
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@coyote I am sorry to hear that. Wondering if you have the Monday night link. It is different than the Wednesday night link.  I was not able to get Zoom to keep the link the same for both meetings. Please let me know what happened.  



   
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(@jewels-2)
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Question:  What happens to all that dark energy around Trump after he loses the election (and  does who knows what afterward)? 



   
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(@coyote)
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@jeanne-mayell

I honestly don't know what happened. The only thing I can think of is that I moved the email messages for the Circle of Light meditations from my inbox to my archive last week, so that could have interfered with the link. I know I was trying the link for the Monday meditations. 



   
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(@earthangel)
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@coyote oh bummer! When I didn’t see you in the lineup, I imagined you basking in white light ? 

actually, that happens to me sometimes. Not sure why... perhaps mercury retrograde 



   
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(@isabelle)
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@seeker4

 

Agreed.  While on one level I am sickened by the Trump offspring, on another level I feel a small sense of compassion:  watching them desperately parrot their father's talking points, constantly doing virtual handsprings for his approval... all to "be acceptable or even relevant momentarily", to get a quick nod of approval from the Orange One, only to be forgotten a moment later.  Growing up in that sociopathic, cruel home could not have been easy.  They probably figured out that "the best place to hide" in that home was by mimicking The Great Orange Narcissist"  as a form of emotional camaflouge.  I had greater hopes for Tiffany who turned out to be just like the rest.  Mary Trump's book, btw, was excellent:  even-handed, very credible and eye-opening....amid all that material excess, these are 5 incredibly emotionally-impoverished kids...



   
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