@jeanne-mayell Thank you, and to everyone who makes the predictions and compiles them!
In a sense we're already broken up. The U.S. is already comprised of regions that were settled by different immigrants groups and are very different from each other. Hence our difficulty in getting along. Here's is a cool NPR article from over a decade ago:
https://www.npr.org/2013/11/11/244527860/forget-the-50-states-u-s-is-really-11-nations-says-author
FWIW, I don't see us breaking up (as in becoming different countries) because we are already kind of broken up. I see us going through hell based on divisions fomented by people whose primary purpose is to profit from those divisions, plus add in racism to that equation. We'll endure, but as Jeanne has predicted, we'll emerge battered. Maybe better? I hope so.
The only perspective I can speak from is my own.... I would rather have a more realist view so I can prepare for things but in my own opinion if you have no hope at all, its hard not to fall in despair and give up. So I tend to try to prepare for things in my life by doing everything I can control to make it the best for me and my family but also try to have a strong belief or faith that good will win out over bad. If the only thing I hear or see is all negativity, then I tend to withdraw into myself. Sometimes you have to do that for your own sanity. However, hope, faith and belief in goodness and light in people is what keeps you going too. Years ago when I was a college student, I took a lot of fine arts classes. One teacher I had ruled his classroom by so much negativity that many promising artists quit and felt that they would never be good enough. The teacher had no idea that he had such an impact....when he found out he was horrified. The thing I've found is that a sense of balance and control helps. If everything is negative, the world feels so very dark but if there are ways that you can make some things better even in little ways you at least feel like there are possibilities of things being better. I don't want false positivity but I will tell you right now I live in a lot of fear and uncertainty. Like today, when the federal funding shut down, I didn't even know if I could go to my doctor appointment coming up, would the federal funding for transportation in my area still be available to take me, would I still get my check, a new place to live still is in question and on and on. I worry about losing all my health coverage, being homeless at some point and how I'm going to keep myself and my family safe. It is important to be prepared but I (and at least people like me) still need a light to grab onto in the darkness that is going on. I am trying so very hard to hold onto hope and positivity...and not end each day in tears or fear. I spend a lot of time taking deep breaths, trying to focus on what I can do and maybe yes I do hope to hear something to makes me feel like change and good things are still there even if its hard for the moment.
Tomorrow at 7 pm EST 4 pm PST is Jeanne's Wednesday Circle of Light. Please, folks on this thread, and anyone who can, come to the Circle of Light meditation on ZOOM. I sense it is much needed by many here.
I encourage you, again, to attend if you can.
Apparently, I have inadvertently implied that I believe the prediction about the physical/political breakup of the US. I would like to make it clear that I do not; I was only acknowledging that the prediction mentioned by @carmen has been out there for many years and providing an example of it from my admittedly faded memory of it. @lynn 's statement about going through hell because of the created/amplified divisions and differences is much more in line with my own belief, and I would agree that @jeanne-mayell 's prediction that we will come out bruised is almost guaranteed. There will be a lot to clean up, and the US will need to eat a rather large slice of humble pie from the things it has fostered/encouraged/instigated over the last 250 years. I'm hoping that any US government that follows this one will finally stop slavishly pandering to the "USA Good! Everything else bad! We are the best ever and always will be!" mentality and finally step up to the plate not as a superpower or "the leader of the free world", but finally taking our place as just another citizen nation on this lonely little mudball in space.
@tgraf66 yes. I've expanded my horizons, so to speak, greatly since the election looking for honesty, unvarnished truth and unbiased opinions in predictions. I do not wish to hear only happy/light/positive things. I only wish to hear the truth.
@impassionate How do you discern what is unvarnished truth and unbiased opinion in predictions? I'm serious...how does someone know? Like you, I don't want to hear only positive things, but I don't want to read wild speculation, either.
@impassionate How do you discern what is unvarnished truth and unbiased opinion in predictions? I'm serious...how does someone know? Like you, I don't want to hear only positive things, but I don't want to read wild speculation, either.
That's a great question. I wish I could tell you how, but I'm pretty good at it. I think it is because I have moderately good intuitive skills combined with a doctorate's worth of scientific training.
I can read people pretty well too. One time my department was considering a person to hire for an important position. A colleague asked what I thought of the person. I said- spontaneously-- she presents well, but she'll put a knife in your back, no question. She was hired, and after a couple of years I turned out to be right.
Who else had a good BS detector? And why do you think it's so?
"@impassionate How do you discern what is unvarnished truth and unbiased opinion in predictions? I'm serious...how does someone know?"
Lowtide's question is the perfect one for all of us who are working on using and improving our intuition.
Like the celebrated Mickey Mantle who only got on base one third of the time, we are all flawed in our attempts to achieve perfection. So, a healthy amount of self reflection is in order. Otherwise we end out leaning towards those days when they burned people at the stake because of people's intuitions about them.
There are so many competing factors that cause humans to be imperfect in their intuitions, that I'd wager that the very best intuitives in time are correct less than fifty percent of the time. The famed Edgar Cayce claimed incorrectly that Atlantis would rise in 1967. Hundreds of believers waited along the Atlantic coast to see it. The celebrated Baba Vanga likely never made and certainly didn't write down any world predictions, so ignore Internet claims, many originating from her niece who is profiting from her aunt's fame. And I was famously wrong about Harris becoming president. That mistake deserves its own thread.
As for the rest of us, we remember when we're right but the ego dims our mistakes.
But we can learn from our mistakes. So it is good to keep trying, because intuitive wisdom is our own way of finding our inner voices, our true selves.
We need to be humble about it, and yet, confident that we each have this inner wisdom and not succumb to someone else's louder voice. When that happens, we might as well be in a cult.
We need to be open to our mistakes. This work is personal, individual, and nuanced. We need to be able to see our attempts at intuitive wisdom in shades of grey, rather than black and white.
The reason that spirit visions or intuitions are a mystery going back to the beginning of time is that we can never be sure. Yet our efforts to improve our intuition are among the most important ways we can evolve as people, as a species.
We need to be open to our mistakes. This work is personal, individual, and nuanced. We need to be able to see our attempts at intuitive wisdom in shades of grey, rather than black and white.
The reason that spirit visions or intuitions are a mystery going back to the beginning of time is that we can never be sure. Yet our efforts to improve our intuition are among the most important ways we can evolve as people, as a species.
Love this, @jeanne-mayell It really reminds us of what we are doing here on this site. Learning! Trying to deepen our own skills, connect to parts of our human experience that many of us have lost in modern society. This learning process and our evolution through it is the future.
Thanks for sharing your wisdom on @lowtides question. I know I have learned so much from you about intuition both here on the site, through your classes and from the Circle of Light. I have also appreciated learning from other members of the forum. There is so much yet to discover, a life long process of growth and understanding. We are blessed to be able to grow here, make mistakes and develop awareness. Thank you!
@jeanne-mayell I am not an intuitive but a medium. All is energy. My belief that there were wide mistakes in the predictions regarding the recent election was because of everyone reading the collective energy of the participants. As a medium you are blending with spirit but there are many things that can break the blending and the medium will drop psychic, reading the sitter verses communicating for the spirit. One of the biggest culprits in loosing connections is fear. I know that so many of us were fearful. You guys were not wrong you were just reading a different very strong energy - desire.
@lowtide that is honestly a fantastic question. I dont know how to tell others what to look for. I really wish I did because you're right without some kind of compass how do you know? For me I just know. I get feelings in my body and my mind just clicks with it and I just know. And when something does not eing turned to me I dig into that subject and absorb everything. (I'm a paralegal tho so that's just my nature)
I'm tuned out since the election. I am however on a self-finding mission. I've been meditating every single morning, walking in nature, asking to keep my vibration high and my fears low so I can communicate with my spirit guides.
All I can say is that Jeanne once said, we all made it to this community together for a reason. I think about that often. We have found each other for a purpose. We all may be on different paths but all are heading to the same place.
Maybe it's as simple as trusting our instincts and trusting each other and talking through things like rational thoughtful human beings.
I've always disagreed with "you never talk politics or religion ". That's why we are where are!!!!!! No one knows how to have a civil discussion anymore but that will take me on a another rant. Lol.
@jeanne-mayell So true. I felt compelled to say here that we do all have free will. I'm not 100% convinced that all the predictions were "wrong", however. I truly believe he stole the election and that shifted the timeline we had all hoped to be on by now. I believe that it is possible for toxic positivity to blind us to the worse possibilities of humanity. (Fear of predicting death or other such things-arent these things also apart of all of us, of life?) I think we all learned a valuable lesson its just a shame it has to be so damn harsh!
Long term lurker from Michigan here (shout out to DannyBoy!) @Tara, I really resonate with your last 2 posts. I don’t visualize things, but I do get visceral feelings, usually my heart chakra feels an expansion, and then something pops into my mind and I just know. Also if I’m suddenly moved to tears while thinking and/or speaking about something, then I take that as “message received “ from the Universe. I am a retired city clerk and elections administration was part of the job. Tara, I agree with you: the last election was stolen.
To add to this, my intuition kept telling me all along that this would happen. It felt like 2016 again and I knew after Biden’s first debate performance. I clung to hope after Harris became the candidate but my gut told me it wasn’t to be. What’s interesting about my intuition is that it never comes from a place of fear or hope; it’s like something I’m not noticing is being pointed out to me or it’s telling me that I already have the answer to some of these painful questions. It has no emotion, it just *is* and I refused to acknowledge it because it was just too terrifying to consider otherwise. I ignored it because I wanted to believe it wasn’t true. I also didn’t believe that people could be so delusional and so cruel- other than the MAGAt cultists, how could anyone else vote for that monster again?
@nelysthealchemist I feel the same. It was so bad right after Nov 5 that I started researching "Exit Points". Did find some interesting and positive information during that search, which helped me hold on, until I just read the latest predictions. Now I'm back on the ledge. Why do we have to suffer, just so the backfill people can learn their lesson, which probably won't sink in anyway?