Trust your gut laura! I believe you.
I felt this icky feeling there, like once i was there I couldn't leave, my anxiety was way up, and also had inexplicable nausea and headaches when I lived there too. It was like walking into this dark place that trapped me. My boyfriend and i regularly referred to it as a black hole before we even learned or looked into anything spiritual. I never get nauseous like that. I couldn’t quite verbalize what was wrong with the place for a while, but the more i talked about it with others and the more time i spent the more obvious it became to me. That being said, I'm a pretty intuitive person and pick up on these vibes easily and it took me a while to realize i need to trust that gut feeling... so if you don’t usually feel “off” about stuff like this, and you do in your home- it could be a sign somethings not right there. I also had a few friends with strong instincts who would confirm independently so that did help. One warning sign id look for is any kind of sleep issues, dreams, or weird things around sleep time.
Either way- i support you! I recommend looking up specific crystals/ incense that are meant for strong protection and not just cleansing as well. Those helped me a lot. I believe I used black tourmaline to grid my home and black obsidian crystals in each room scattered around. It also got so bad for me that I had my boyfriend bring a crucifix and picture of Mary from his mom’s house lol. (Tip- cleanse your crystals in salt water every week)
I also was told to keep burning those Santeria/ saint/ alter candles around my home. It was creepy, the woman I spoke to asked me if I already had the alter candles. I told her yes i did, i always picked them up randomly at the bodega by me but had never thought much of it. She told me “they hate those, theyve been trying to knock them over- keep them burning while you sleep” — turns out the week before I was lighting one and it had weirdly flown out of my hand and i spilled the wax all over my kitchen floor. Yikes. I would keep a white one burning next to my bed as i slept and every night I did that i had a much better, more restful sleep.
Someone who knows more about saints will probably laugh at my description because I know so little, but I believe this one saint- Lazarus- has something to do with death/rebirth or the dead. I was told to utilize this guy. I believe theres some medallion of a saint that people put on doorknobs that are meant for spiritual protection. I’m not super religious but at that point I need all the help I could get.
The salt and white crystals & sage should help too though. I had someone recommend to me I play church like music in my home- as in tibetan singing bowl music and Gregorian chant music. you can find them on youtube or Spotify. The neighbors must have thought I was nuts. But hey, I had demons to get rid of!!
Have you ever looked up the history of your home now? I know there are public records online that you can access, sometimes free but sometimes you pay like $1 to access. Might be helpful. I did a lot of research and although It freaked me out it definitely helped validate my problem was demonic/dark energy in nature.
I did look up the house history, it was built in 1936. Nothing unusual, no one died here as far as we know. BUT compared to other places we have lived, including other old houses, this one has a very long list of occupants (owners and renters), longer than any other place, so who knows.
Thanks for you support and ideas @sagetarotpisces
so interesting thanks for sharing ?
@sagetarotpisces and @laura-f, The paranormal experiences I mentioned in my earlier post had some similarities to what you described. It happened in my late 20's, in a house where I was living with two other people. I don't believe I was in any physical danger, but it was powerful. Someone who once lived in that house had passed away about a year earlier, but it was from a long illness – nothing violent. Only one prior owner of the house. In my situation I am convinced that it wasn’t so much the energy of the house, as it was the dynamics with the people I lived with, some of it quite negative. I was in a life transition, depressed/inwardly angry, and feeling quite vulnerable. One person was very gifted psychically, but manipulative and controlling – with a hidden agenda that I don’t think she was fully aware of. Actually we were all gifted either psychically and/or empathically, although I didn’t realize that about myself at the time. Anyway all of those factors seemed to open up a portal. And in came the kind of crazy, paranormal stuff you see in movies.
sagetarotpisces, like you I was raised catholic but not religious. At that time I was going through a spiritual crisis of sorts. As I lived through this, I thought I was losing my mind. The first time I felt attacked by these unseen forces I was terrified and didn’t know what to do, so I called on God. Each time I did that, I was pretty amazed how immediately peaceful and protected I felt. For as threatening as it seemed at the time, the experience ended up strengthening my faith and changed the course of my life.
I do keep crystals around our house. If I ever do feel an unwanted presence in our current home, I tell it to go to the light or wherever it came from. I also say a prayer and cross myself. A crazy story about crystals: I once had an HR director who had a large clear quartz on her desk. After she went through a week of doing performance evaluations with the staff, the crystal turned a dark gray!
laura-f, I agree about the sage. I didn't know about the black salt. The first home my husband and I owned had a funky basement. It just always felt "off" -- almost like an uncomfortable, dark and depressed emotional residue. We later learned that the person who once had an apartment in the basement had emotional problems and drank too much. You could feel it. So I had a friend come over and do a cleansing ceremony, where she used sage and prayed with us addressing all four sides of the house. It did help, but we had some difficult neighbors, so we ended up eventually moving.
Ever since I had that experience in my 20's, I’ve been hypersensitive to my environment. I can immediately read the energy of a room. It made it especially hard when I worked in a large, corporate environment with in-fighting, drama and hidden conflicts. Lots of behind-the-scenes BS going on. On the surface I managed it well, but it took a lot out of me. (I know that most on this site are empaths, so you understand what I mean.) I also have problems visiting certain historical sites, especially if there was any violence involved (e.g., makeshift hospital in Gettysburg that treated Civil War soldiers, etc.)
I've shared my paranormal experience with a few people over the years, but not many. Thankfully my husband and close friends don't believe I'm crazy! A few years after I left that house, I shared my story with a guy I was dating. He smirked and asked "do you watch a lot of soap operas?" Nice, huh? That was the end of that relationship -- and don't let the door hit you on the way out! ?
Thanks for sharing this! Im in my late twenties and seems like a similar awakening of sorts for me- i now know how sensitive i am to my living environment. Thankfully, my space now is quite “light”.
I guess what i was always curious about was learning about the differences in spirits/energies. I dont know if I could ever tell the difference between a human, spirit energy, and a demonic or inhuman entity. (Anyone who gets this better than me- id love to learn!) What i do know is that a human spirit would not be as evil as my old place was... it was way too icky and dark to be anything but pure hate and a desire to wear me down. Whatever it was- it fed off of me. Gives me shivers to think about!
i do feel this type of energy in some of what we see in the news today, unfortunately.
And as for the guy you dated who made that comment—pfft...Buh bye! I have the same attitude. Not sure i could ever date someone who is that spiritually closed minded, they’d have an awfully hard time hanging with me- lol
@sagetarotpisces I get visitors in my dreams, like your sister.
I was in elementary school when walking to school one day after a rain. I saw a white cloud in sort of shaped like a woman floating cross the second floor wooden deck of a house as my sister and I walked. I told her to look at the odd cloud, and when I turned back, it was gone.
The second time I had a cloud, it was in my bedroom. I was 12 or 13. Woke up and there at the foot of my bed was this big white cloud-inside the house. Scared the daylights out of me. I saw no way to exit the room without going through it, so I pulled the covers up over my head. I don't know how long I stayed like that, but it was gone when I finally got up the courage to peek out from under the covers.
I get more shadow like glimpses when I'm awake and see movement. Sometime in the hall, sometimes in my room. Usually while I'm watching tv and my mind is relaxed. Tho the other day I was at the kitchen sink and as I turned around I saw the butt and tail of a big black dog over by my dog's water dish, disappearing into the wall behind the dish. I think by the size, short hair, and appearance it was one of my passed black great danes. Made me chuckle, till I realized my mother was in the room and I didn't want to have to explain. With her late stage Alzheimer's it would have turned into an Abbott and Costello banter routine.
So cool! I guess i can see them too, but its so odd that I only have seen them when I'm with my twin, as they seem to be attracted to her. Ive never seen one (as far as i can recall) on my own. Besides my late great grandparents, i haven't experienced much death to those close around me, and the spirits she sees seem to be random. The old apartment she lived in in LA was one, and her room in my mom’s home now (my twin has the master bedroom) is another more recent sighting of “the cloud” lol.
Sometimes im jealous they seem to want to talk to her more- none of them are harmful and actually seem protective in a way. Weirdly enough, theyve come to her in times that are very stressful or transition phases of her life (moving across the country, going through a breakup). One christmas we were sleeping in her bedroom at my moms and the space heater kept getting moved closer to us as we slept, like someone was trying to keep us warm at night. We woke-up and it had been moved about 10 feet right next to the bed. Loved that. Another weird note- she’s told me shes been woken up from sleep with something hovering directly over her body by her face most frequently when she had someone sleep over- like when ive slept in her bed while visiting or a friend is staying for the night- almost like its protecting her. Kind of cute. Thanks protective spirit!
she thought she was nuts at first or having issues with her eyes (she actually will eventually be legally blind in one eye due to cataracts) but once I saw it at the same time as her, we both knew.
Mostly though, I'm not sure i’d want that “attraction” from them because well, I value my sleep!! And clearly from my posts above I don’t think i need any more “visitations” of the paranormal variety.
I did look up the house history, it was built in 1936. Nothing unusual, no one died here as far as we know. BUT compared to other places we have lived, including other old houses, this one has a very long list of occupants (owners and renters), longer than any other place, so who knows.
Thanks for you support and ideas @sagetarotpisces
I sometimes smell cigarette smoke around me that no on else can smell. Sometimes it can be so strong I have to leave the room I'm in or if that doesn't work I have to cover my nose for a little. Does anyone know what this could be linked to?
This thread is fascinating! Thanks for sharing.