@elainesk. During Read the Future Night in February, I saw Scotland voting on the independence issue in the fall of this year. Now I’m very curious about the outcome of today’s election.
@tgraf66 I am descended from clan Anderson in Fifeshire near St. Andrews and clan McKay from the northern Highlands. There are more of course, but I haven’t gone down the genealogy rabbit hole for a while.
@bluebelle If we are going to talk ancestry, my maiden name is Bruce and I am descended from Robert the Bruce along with a million other people. My older brother has all the documents. I just enjoy the plaid.
@coyote Scots only took on English as their main language in the 18th century when Act of Union happened. Gaelic is our smallest but oldest language that is still very much a used language on our islands and parts of our Highlands though there was Gaelic used even down in Fife where l live, most of our towns and villages have Garlic names and you can see the English/Gaelic railway station/town/ village/City names. New Scots and those who support the British Union want the Scottish Gov to stop spending money on a proud Scots language. The more vast language is Scots Tongue or in Scots "Mither Tongue" ( Mother tongue). Before 2014 many pro Indy folk brought it back, we were under English education supposed to be British but they taught us not to speak our Mither Tongue or write it. We do now in most cases on social networking. My Mum came from Aberdeenshire, her language was Doric and my German Dad fell in love with her, spoke Oxford English but didn't understand what they said.. lol.
Once you are connected to a clan, it spirals into many others, if they weren't killing each others clan, they married. My main Clan is McGregor x
@bluebelle It is frustrating not getting any results till Friday, Sat or even Sunday because of Covid, l guess l am suspicious of interference like we suspected in 2014. The UKGov and 99% of British media including majority of English HQd media who say they are a Scottish media. Poor Nicola has been hounded in the most appalling misogynist way with so much propaganda but in the 7 years she has been First Minister, her honesty has always shone through and none of her enemies could trip her up, the Yes/SNP people called them out on their propaganda backed with proof and New Yessers learnt not to trust the British media. There seems to be talk among politicians and media that Nicola could win a very small margin of majority a nd that would make a lot of Scots very happy.
Most polls over several years have 16/34 year olds around 70% pro Indy/pro SNP. A majority win is the trigger to our Democratic right for an Indy referendum and UKGov have already said they would take ScotGov to court against it but Scotland has our own Legal System, courts, judges, Police etc and then where England says no, Scots say yes and the Supreme Court is next, if they deny Scotland its legal, Democratic right to self determine we will take it to International Court and win it there. Bullying arrogant England still live in Colonial days forgetting the Act of Union was an equal partnership, they do not own Scotland.
Europe are openly saying they want Scotland back in EU. Nicola has said we getting through Pandemic first, its possible Autumn may be a date of triggering campaign for Indy Ref which was 2 and half years long last time to gain more support we were as high as 58% for Indy but the infighting of that nasty tiny Indy party that appeared just months ago has put of Scots so its 50% now. Maybe a referendum in 2022/2023.
If Scotland goes Independent, then I want to live in Scotland!
I live in Northern England, and I know many English in the North feel there is a North and South divide, not just between England and Scotland, but between Northern England and Southern England. The Westminster elites who are part of the Tory government, have historically screwed over Northern England, and have done so again with brexit.
My sister's husband is Scottish and his whole family are wonderful. I would definitely say their progressive political views are more in line with mine than where I live.
In many ways, independence would probably be the wake up call that the Tory government needs. I really hope that in England, labour, the green party, and liberal democrats can regain control from the Tories/Conservatives. I also would love for us to one day remain the EU again, or at the very least, have a closer relationship than we do right now.
Sorry to derail the topic slightly.
I was born a Wallace and married a Gillis so there ya go.
"@bluebelle If we are going to talk ancestry, my maiden name is Bruce and I am descended from Robert the Bruce along with a million other people. My older brother has all the documents. I just enjoy the plaid."
When my son married he wanted it to be a truly Scottish wedding in Highlands dressed in the full McGregor Highland dress, they wanted to be married on the edge of a Loch Farr, it was a Celebrant who legally married them and they drank whisky from a Quaich Cup, his bride and her family are from England so they were able to see her in white but after they married he put the McGregor tartan sash across her.
He wanted to give me a wedding that would make any Scot proud especially and brought their marriage forward a year because l had been told l had terminal brain Mets cancer so l was so proud of them pulling it off in 21 weeks. That was in 2019 and thankfully l'm still here ?
Robert the Bruce and William Wallace are our heroes, Robert's sister Christiana de Bruis married my ancestor Sir Andrew de Moray who is my 2nd cousin 22xremoved. Because Scotland is small and not a big population back then its amazing how our DNA crossed the world and you are part of King Robert's lineage, not enough Scots were given Scottish history over several decades, many of us older ones learnt from our own interest, England denied us that right, only when SNP came to power in 2007 did education change x
@luminous We had over 400k English Scots before Brexit and many thousands who were Remainers moved to Scotland, the UK has always been centralised to London and South East and Northern England and devolved Nations have been bled dry to prop the wealthy up. You are more than welcome like all others that see Scotland as the door back to EU, Scots want a Scotland that is fair and equal and full of renewable energy, we can build a Nation which ticks the boxes of looking after our planet and our people x
There are a few places where I would love to live in the future: Scotland (anywhere), San Francisco/San Jose, Massachusetts (Salem area), Seattle, and Canada (Vancouver, Nova Scotia).
I like to keep my options open and dreams alive.
If we are sharing our Scots roots, my mother’s mother was born a Robertson, and my mother’s paternal grandmother was born a Campbell.