Paul, Thanks. There were a flurry of articles like this one last summer that continue to raise my concern.
Paul W, of course I'm not discounting the articles on the superiority of the US Navy but my predictions come purely from spiritual intuition. Logic and statistical analysis does not come to play here, I just simply report what spirit says with no filter.
If you look at history quite a few events occurred at total surprise such as the start of WW1 and the JFK assassination. If you were living back in those historical events you would not have seen it coming and sometimes things simply just happen almost out of divine intervention. Same for the 9/11 attack, it's not like we had plenty of warning and that there were hints of terrorists hijacking a plane for suicide attacks. Logic could not have predicted that event. We already had security measures in airplanes and honestly no one would have seen it coming that a group of terrorists would capture planes with just box cutters and a bomb threat.
That, and while I agree the US Navy has some powerful arsenal you cannot deny that there's been some recent embarrassing mishaps of collisions. They've had to fire several Naval officers and conduct thorough investigations to ensure it doesn't occur again.
It would be great if we were in a perfect world where everything makes sense and that everything is logical but the reality proves otherwise.
Will disagree that a 9/11 of some kind wasn't anticipated. I recall reading an article in the San Jose Mercury news in July 1999, 3rd page, lower right hand corner about the CIA investigating some potential troublemaker called Osama Bin Laden (which triggered a vision of a jet plane against a cloud, and two giant shards of glass shattering into flame--that is burned in my memory, which is why I can remember the specific article.) They had a bead on the troublemaker 2 years before it occurred. They may not have anticipated *what* would happen, but they had a firm grip on potential perpetrators.
Bear in mind that there's often considerable lag time between when the US Intelligence Services and Military knows something, and when that same information gets out to the public. If ever.
There's the game that we hear about in the news, and a whole 'nother level that goes on where the public can't see it. What we know about the NK situation and the US response is merely the tip of the iceberg.
As for the US Navy, from discussions with former Navy personnel I am aware that sometimes they conduct exercises where they "run dark," for covert ops. Do that often enough in the wrong waters and you *will* run afoul of something. It's not mere incompetence. Fact is, they keep running into things within spitting distance of the South China Sea. Go figure why.
-R1-
I also remember that there were plenty of warnings about the possibility of a 9/11. When Bush took office, Clinton had briefed him about Osama bin Laden as a major terrorism threat. There was an entire department devoted to bin Laden at the CIA.
A novel published in 2000 called Blackout, which was about an FBI agent fighting terrorism, had the exact 9/11 plot laid out on one page. The FBI protagonist speculated about the possibility of two commercial airlines being hijacked at JFK airport and flown into the twin towers.
We noticed a letter to the Boston Globe a few months earlier disagreeing with the Administration's invasive foreign policy in the Middle East and wondering if at some point there'd be a back lash on our own soil. If anyone had been paying enough attention, it wasn't a stretch to predict 9/11.
Also, for those of us living in NYC at the time, important to remember that the WTC had been attacked several years earlier, by islamic terrorists with a van of explosives in the underground garage. Those terrorists publicly vowed to try again.
I had my own vision of the towers coming down. It was 1985 (so a decade before the first attempt). I was showing foreign friends NYC. We went to the WTC to go to the restaurant that was at the top. I had been there before, although it was not somewhere I went frequently (too touristy for natives lol!). I remember being in the lobby waiting for the elevator. I could see people walking in different directions on different levels of this large space. Suddenly my vision got clouded, I felt a strange shaking, almost like an earthquake, I saw huge shards of glass falling and I heard a voice say in my right ear "This is all going to come down, the whole thing." It all happened in a split second. I asked my friends if they felt any shaking, they said no. We did go to the top, but I was queasy the whole evening. After that night I never set foot in either tower again.
Laura: Wow. Just Wow.
I love hearing how everyone gets their info--dreams, voices, visions, angels & trumpets. Yours feels very physical!
I can't tell if this information is actively given to us by an outside agency (perhaps angelic) or if it is our own higher natures speaking to us!
R1: In retrospect, I think it was one of my spirit guides who I wasn't "officially introduced" to until about 10 years ago. And I'm not consistent at all, sometimes I have dreams that I don't understand until something happens, because it presents as a reality I have no idea about (for example, and long story short, I dreamed about Jonestown Massacre in 1978, right down to the Kool-Aid, but didn't know it was prescient). And then sometimes it is physical, like above, or a few years back when the Virginia Tech shooting happened - for that one I was in the supermarket and passed by the live lobster tank, which always makes me a bit sad, but on this day, all the lobsters were crowded into 1 corner, and I got a sharp pain in my side and a weird "disturbance in the force" feeling. I got home quickly as I could (was living in VA at the time), and had to sit on my staircase inside in my coat until it passed. And then when I turned on the TV a short while later, I heard the news. And typically when people are going to be born or die (people that are close family or friends), I usually dream about it. So consistently inconsistent.
When 9/11 happened, one of my brothers was working around the corner. We couldn't reach him and the family in general was extremely worried. I was worried too, but I kept sensing his living presence, I knew he hadn't died and that he was safe, just unable to communicate. Sure enough, on 9/12 he was able to make a call out on someone else's phone. He was still in Manhattan, had a narrow escape, but was fine.
And apologies to all for my tangential posts on here. I try my best to stay on topic...
Laura: Pretty sure that conversations about past visioning and 'how do we know what we know' *are* relevant to any thread. North Korea is certainly a huge issue. Any data points we can add or shared experiences that help us vision the future more clearly are all to the good.
What I'm trying to discern is what's a 'mainstream' vision vs outlier visions. Is shared multiple visionings really a more accurate assessment of future reality, or are outlier visions just earlier or more sensitive 'catches' of a potential timeline? Is it possible to map when a timeline bubbles up then dissipates? Is it possible to assay statistical probabilities of a timeline actually happening?
I wonder if a group like this acts similar to a Very Large Array Radio Telescope , with a multiple array of visions providing a more accurate picture of the future--or if the main factor in accuracy is really the sensitivity of the individual 'receptor' seer.
That has relevance for sorting out situations like this North Korea thing, where so many of us don't sense a dang thing, with a smaller minority sensing something nasty.
I have no answers. Wish I did, so that course corrections for humanity could be more clearly plotted!
-R1-
PN: History plays a large part in how a country's military is structured, trained and equipped. The US experience in WWII can be seen in the way the US Navy operates and in their force structure. The whole system is built around the prospect of a surprise attack like the one suffered at Pearl Harbor. Navy planes, for instance, are always armed when they take off from an aircraft carrier in case war breaks out in the next few hours. The fact that most aircraft carriers in the world are American reflects the lack of carriers in the early days of WWII. Likewise, the Russian obsession with overwhelming numbers of tanks during the cold war reflected their experience at the hands of the Germans. It also explains the common complaint about the early thinking by the US senior military during WWII that they were "refighting the Great War" and not "the next war".
Jeanne: I have read several similar articles. The two key points to remember are; it takes days to prep a liquid-fueled missile and mount a nuclear warhead, giving the world (US and/or China) a chance to knock it out with a cruise missile, and that a missile is most easily knocked out in the "boost" phase when it is first launched and hasn't had a chance to accelerate yet. There are a lot of assets close at hand that can do this. If NK develops a solid fuel booster that can be launched at a moment's notice, all bets are off.
Time will tell.