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(@laura-f)
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Michele - Yes, yes, and important to remember that it was US meddling that set the stage for the violent conditions these folks are fleeing from.

Not that anyone thinks thousands are streaming over the border - but I can tell you personally that here near Tijuana, no one is getting across who shouldn't (and many who should are being turned away anyway). The "caravan" is still over a thousand miles away. 

And all this talk of "embedded terrorists" drives me nuts, when it's clear that white male nationalists are up to no good, not these people....



   
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(@michele-b)
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Laura, thanks for all of that. It is pure absurdity being blasted out by so many loud trumpets.

Learning each day to work on my disgust and put out justice for the innocent as well as the guilty, instead!



   
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(@lovendures)
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This is new and interesting.

"Mexico has offered temporary work permits to migrants who register for asylum, as a big caravan of Central American migrants makes its way through the country toward the US.  The plan also envisages temporary ID cards, medical care and schooling.  But to qualify, migrants must remain in Mexico's southern Chiapas and Oaxaca states."

I wonder how much of this is due to the troops Trump said would be headed to the border?  

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-45999610

 



   
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Meanwhile, it looks like John Bolton and Trump would rather make a show of sending the military to the border rather than working with Mexico and the UN to set up refugee camps for the people who are trying to make it to safety - and they even managed to go around their own DHS to do it:  https://www.thedailybeast.com/bolton-kept-dhs-in-the-dark-in-his-push-to-seal-the-border-against-the-migrant-caravan

‘They don’t care about the wellbeing of the people or actually managing the situation. They just want to use it to pander to their followers.



   
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Hi again, 

i just found further information on Trump’s plans for the southern border:  https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/trump-preparing-to-deliver-major-immigration-speech-just-days-before-midterms/2018/10/26/db474940-d94e-11e8-aeb7-ddcad4a0a54e_story.html?utm_term=.13d4a0d3539f

He wants to declare a national emergency and use executive orders as a political tool before the election to try to energize his base. 



   
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(@michele-b)
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There is increasing evidence of  huge (of unknown origins),  viral attacks being propagated on many media and social media sites (especially Twitter) that the entire "Migrant Brigade" has been funded by liberal supporter, George Soros.

Within the last hour the hoax has exponentially increased with great anger and hatred directed at the migrants supposed malicious intent and Soros ever determined supposed plan to use this brigade to further supposed extreme measures once in America.

One tweet in particular is focusing on the extinction within 100 to 200 years of 50% of all conservatives by Soros' supposed plan. 

Both Caesar Sayez (pipe bombs) and Robert D. Bowers, the Pittsburgh Synagogue shooter have been known and shown focus on Soros and his activities as a serious liberal danger . One of Sayek's pipe bombs was addressed to him, as well.

With the advent of Trumps comments on the huge migrant group advancing towards refuge through Mexico and wanting asylum and a home in the the U.S.during one recent rally,it has further increased its scope.

Focus on a symbolic blue light that is spreading goodness, peace and light surrounded by symbolic walls of protection or giant symbolic sandbags to keep the rushing flood waters filled with red herring out (and appearing to be red waters) out and away from the blue. 

www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/national/a-conspiracy-theory-about-george-soros-and-a-migrant-caravan-inspired-horror/2018/10/28/52df587e-dae6-11e8-b732-3c72cbf131f2_story.htmlwww.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/national/a-conspiracy-theory-about-george-soros-and-a-migrant-caravan-inspired-horror/2018/10/28/52df587e-dae6-11e8-b732-3c72cbf131f2_story.html



   
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Trump trying to take birth right citizenship through executive order.  Just before the elections he announced this. Interesting. 



   
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I heard that on the early news and couldn't believe my ears!

Birthright Citizens (born in America) being stripped of citizenship of their constitutional rights by an Executive Order???

Link to the above. Always good to add to any news event for source identification 

 

 



   
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WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump is making another hardline immigration play in the final days before the midterm elections, declaring that he wants to order an end to the constitutional right to citizenship for babies born in the United States to non-citizens. Most scholars think he can’t implement such a change unilaterally.

With seven days to go before high-stakes elections that he has sought to focus on fearmongering over immigration, Trump made the comments to “Axios on HBO.” Trump, seeking to energize his supporters and help Republicans keep control of Congress, has stoked anxiety about a caravan of Central American migrants making its way to the U.S.-Mexico border.

https://www.apnews.com/7bc17837af16492b81e1f3fff913e3e5

Everything is connecting. We have the Migrant Brigade and Trumps determination to bring it to a halt combined with his grasping at other ways of altering immigrant rights by seeking to deny birthright citizens of their rights (including voting) and potentially creating a constitutional conflict if not actual constitutional and seeking to emotionally charge mid-term elections voting with a hot button issue.

And to make things even more interesting create upset and consternation among those with dual citizenship or those vacationing here for the express purpose of giving birth (often in their last month's of pregnancy). 

It was reported this morning that a number of Russian mothers have been living on Trump properties and giving birth to therefore dual citizenship babies .

If true,  no link yet, wondering if he thought of this or has a get around like he is currently plotting to avoid a conflict with specific countries,  nationalities or ways around the Constitution.  Or is he just adding fuel to all fires he apparently loves to start as be watches our nation and our rights and freedoms go up in flames?

 



   
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(@lovendures)
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Such a bold statement.  

My understanding is he can NOT change the constitution with an executive order but I wouldn't put it past him to try.  



   
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