A lot of us have made predictions seeing turmoil or capsized boats or closed borders and inhumane treatment such as separation of families around the world.
I created a general topic for news and discussions as we don't have a primary forum for discussion.
Today's news was that 3,000 people which is being called "The Immigrant Brigade" was heading from Guatemala to the .Mexico/ U.S. border creating push back from noth leaders with aggressive threats.
Here's a link, there are many others.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ct-migrant-caravan-guatemala-20181019-story.html
Thanks Jessie 1978 !
Honduran Migrants broke through the Southern border into Guatemala.
This is going to hurt the democrats on voting day. Republicans are going to say, "See we need to do more to keep them out". Why did this caravan have to come now? Is it another ploy by the republicans? The whole thing plays very bad on the news.
While there are many who are seeing this through the lens of an angry mob demanding human rights without going the slow application process, others see it as a humanitarian rights uprising of pure desperation.
Many are trapped on the bridge without food, water, toilet pots or diapers to even change their now filthy from naturally defecation little babies.
They are pleading and desperate. But what do or can officials do without unleashing hordes of people without screening of any kind?
And how is it not inhumane when infants and children are involved?
Read about the immigrants from this update including political statements from U.S., Mexico, Guatemala leaders and officials.
http://www.dailyjournal.net/2018/10/20/lt-central-america-migrant-caravan-6/
In spite of Mexican efforts to stop them at the border, the original 3,000 border brigade members are now down to about 2,000 Central American migrants who swam or rafted across a river separating that country from Guatemala.
There, they re-formed their mass caravan in Mexico and vowed to resume their journey toward the United States.
Using your intuition do you see "very bad people" as Trump calls them, pawns in a political game, or desperate people who have somehow banded together to create this movement?
Just write the first thought that came into your mind.
I see desperation marking the lives of these people fleeing Central America. They must know how badly refugees are being treated at our borders and yet they come. It’s tragic that these poor people risk being detained and being separated from their children. Now they are used as pawns by a dishonorable president trying to energize his base right before the midterms.
I also feel that these people are desperate and, as bad/difficult as it may be, they feel that this is their only hope for survival and a possible shot at a better life. I also think that they are not fully informed about what they can expect if they arrive at the US border.
I won't use my intuition because I have first hand experience representing people from Central America, mostly women and children but some men too. I'd like to share it for anyone who's interested. These people are desperate. Nothing that happens to them in the US can even began to approximate what they've been through and what they fear returning to. Gang-rapes, extortion, death threats, murder. It's horrific. I had a client who fled Honduras because of a rape and murder threat, was kidnapped on her way to the US, held hostage in Mexico, and gang-raped. The rapes were videotaped. Her child was in another room within earshot. It's almost incomprehensible to us in the US that these things happen, but they are happening every day to thousands of people.
Very early in my legal career, in the early 90s, I represented Central Americans fleeing civil war, including the genocide that was being inflicted on the indigenous Guatemalans. The things that are generating the terror now may be different, but the terror is the same. It's disheartening to see that nothing seems to have improved.
I know the folks who read this site are pretty well informed, so forgive me if what I'm saying is obvious, but the people who are coming into our country are doing so because of desperation, pure and simple. No one leaves everything they know and have for fun and giggles. They do it because the alternative is worse than the risk.
If you have a moment during your day, please send love and light to our refugee brothers and sisters throughout the world. There is so much suffering that needs to be replaced with love and compassion.
Exactly Lynn - No one leaves everything they know, their love ones, their home, their own children just for an adventure. As someone who is married to a South American, they leave their family knowing that maybe they will never get to hold their mom and dad and children ever again. If their parents die they can't go. They come here with the hopes of elevating their family. Helping them buy a house, buy food, clothes and being able to send their children to a private school to get a better education then what the public school gives them. They sacrifice everything even their lives. All the people who are against these immigrants by saying come the right way. They have no clue what it entails. It is very hard and it cost a lot of money that these people don't have. Also, what Trump and his administration does not tell them that these people that they put in their little concentration camps can get out if they pay a bond (some people are lucky) and they are able to stay in the united states and plea their case and those people then disappear and move and live in another state, so in the end they end up here anyways.