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(@jeanne-mayell)
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I did something today without asking for your input, and so I am now asking for your support.  I deleted a thread that I had started a while back and some of you provided great input.   It was the topic in which I asked for substitute names we could use for the man who occupies the White House. At the time, I wanted to stop using his name for various reasons, and I thought using nick names would lighten our discourse. He felt more silly and light to me when we called him Mango or Twitler, than by his real name. I provided a few names to get it started and when I read the responses, I had a good laugh, probably the first real belly laugh on a subject involving that man.  It was about time to be able to laugh. 

I didn't realize at the time that I was encouraging people to ridicule someone.  But when someone sent me this article recently, I got that that is what I had done. 

Don't get me wrong, I haven't changed my mind about the guy. He's a danger. He is a bully, a cause of so much pain, a malignant narcissist and a sociopath. And I still like some of those names and could end out using them. And I won't have a problem with anyone using them here.  

The problem for me was that I had set up a specific thread formally encouraging people to come up with nicknames for someone. So please don't worry that you shouldn't call him whatever you need to call him. I still can't say his name and don't intend to. 

But I don't want his behavior to drag me down to his level. So I deleted the thread that I had started and did so with no disrespect for anyone who came up with some of those hilarious nicknames.  I pray that you will be okay with my unilateral decision. I thought about contacting those who had contributed first, but reaching out to specific people who are scattered about is not easy, and  I thought I might never do it if I didn't just do it. 

Years back when spirit came to me about my future as an intuitive light worker, I was told that I would be a facilitator, the workshop leader.  But not a guru. You have helped me grow in ways you can't imagine, and so deleting the thread I had created is part of my growth.  

So follow your own inner guru and know how much I appreciate all of you.  



   
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Dear Jeanne, I am so grateful for this forum you've provided to so many of us. It's been a such a source of inspiration, joy, support, and relief for me during these past three crazy years. I've also gotten to know you as a friend, and I trust you to do what's right for this site. You have my full support and I'm sure the support of so many others. You tried to provide us with something that would lend some levity to counter the darkness, but then realized that you needed to pull back a bit. I see what you were doing with both decisions, and you have all my love and support. Thank you for all the hard work you do to keep this site going, work that includes making decisions to keep it true and authentic, and never mean. xoxo



   
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(@jeanne-mayell)
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Lynn, you are a gift. Thank you.



   
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(@jaidy)
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@jeanne-mayell

I’m so glad you deleted it. It was definitely not in the spirit of the site.



   
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(@laura-f)
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@jeanne-mayell

I disagree about that pulling anyone down to "his" level. Some of the posts made me laugh harder than I have in a long time. I also think that in this time and place, it's unjust to censor clowning when that clowning is aimed at injustice.

BUT

It is YOUR site, and you have to be true to yourself so no offense taken.

F*ck Cheetolini. The fact any of us even has to consider this stuff because of his existence is maddening.



   
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you know, Jeanne,  that i sometimes refrain from posting what i would, because of the worry that somehow it is not coming across in the way i intended.  So i tried to not post while i was having insomnia.  Or after too much coffee.  Or when i was too drunk.  Or too sober!  Or too depressed, or too ecstatic. And most def, when i was just too blah.zay.. Second guessing always come first for me, but let me just say this now: I see your heart, and i love what you are doing here

 



   
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(@jeanne-mayell)
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Laura, I appreciate your reply and I have always appreciated your gusto and your fire. I know what you do for this world, and I know you are on the front lines of helping in ways that I am so grateful for. 

I am not censoring you or anyone, though.  I tried to make that clear.  I deleted a thread that I started because I did not like that I had called people to ridicule someone. I also laughed my head off when I read the responses.  I'm fine with whatever you want to call the guy in your posts. I wouldn't have deleted the thread if someone else had started it.   And it takes all kinds of voices to make up a collective of light workers.  So Laura, thank you for you!  

Unk P. Thank you. Thank you. Brings tears. 



   
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(@laura-f)
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@jeanne-mayell

To clarify - I also mean we shouldn't censor ourselves for silliness. It's not like we're lining up to call "someone" names to their face (although if someone starts that, let me know and I'll get in line!).

And I fully understand the karmic argument of not wanting evil to boomerang back on any of us, but I have come to believe that when battling against truly dark forces, which I believe we are, no boomerangs. The Universe/Karma/Whatever* wouldn't allow for that. And if I'm wrong (a distinct possibility), I'm ok with taking some hits for the team.

Always remember St. Genesius*, the Patron Saint of Performers. He was a Roman clown who got executed for ridiculing the Emperor of Rome.

*Some believe that St. Genesius still protects performers, but especially clowns. I consider myself a lifelong clown.

Much love to you, Jeanne!



   
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Jeanne,

What was your "intention" when you started the thread?  Intentions matter.  Was it to be negative, to ridicule Donald Trump?  Was it a place to dump negativity?  Was it trying to find a moniker that would stick to the man who sticks monikers to others?  Would it be a nickname that would trigger his supporters with rage or trigger them to actually think about it.

For example, if Benedict Donald was the name that resonated, some people might actually stop and think about it.  Benedict Arnold was synonymous with "traitor" in this country (and for some of us, we have a particular Brady Bunch episode to thank for that).  Just as Moscow Mitch has frustrated Mitch McConnell, a nickname may frustrate Trump.  In that state of frustration, he may not focus on implementing other dark deeds of Stephen Miller (et al) and just rage about how unfair he is treated instead.

In the end, I don't question your decision to do what you did.  You provided a place for us to dump darkness and negativity and then you flushed it away.  Welcome to the human condition....



   
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(@jeanne-mayell)
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Posted by: @codyroo

You provided a place for us to dump darkness and negativity and then you flushed it away.  

Love that thought.  Also you are right, hadn't thought of that -- that the names help educate people.  I'm going with Benedict Donald. 

I don't want anyone to feel they can't use whatever words they want here. It wasn't about the names people use. It was about me as owner calling upon everyone to make up nick names.

My intention, since you asked, was initially that I wanted us to be under the radar by not using the man's name so much.  A few weeks days earlier, I'd expressed that I didn't want to use his name so much, and people after that in their posts were hilariously substituting his name for so many funny and creative nicknames that I felt my spirit lighten up. I laughed my head off at the result.  He seemed more silly than dark and foreboding. However, all I had was Mango, so I started the thread to get funnier names into my own vernacular. 

But in the eyes of some good people who aren't fond of him but are looking for a higher vibrational community, it was felt differently when the site owner put out a call for nicknames. People who come from the political Right, for example, may find what I did hurtful, even while they may be turned off to the man in the White House.  They want to end the divisiveness and connect with people who also want a kinder world. It feels hurtful to them personally, even though they don't like him.  I was tone deaf to their feelings, but I see it now. 

And coming from the site's owner, my action could be making me a perpetrator of divisiveness (and darkness) instead of a light worker. So it's not any one of our reader's use of names themselves that are the problem.  It is the owner of the website explicitly calling upon the community to make up nicknames that I feel is wrong. 

I hope people get the distinction and continue using whatever name they want, save anything that arouses violence or is repugnant to anyone.  So far, no one has used a nickname that isn't okay. You get it.  



   
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