This is encouraging about the oceans: The World's Largest Sea Grass Project proves you can actually restore the oceans.
Off the coast of Virginia, where seagrasses disappeared nearly a century ago, a groundbreaking experiment is bringing these climate change fighters back to life. Now, the bays are like a “beautiful underwater prairie,” and scientists are pointing to the effort as a blueprint for restoring and maintaining healthy ecosystems throughout the world’s oceans.
Italy is having success reducing the shrinkage of snowmelt on a glacier by 70%. How you ask? White reflective cloth which is "tucked" into the glacier late in spring by conservationists.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/newsround/57735433
There are a few discussions regarding flooding and coastal flooding, but for the purpose of keeping climate change projections/predictions in one place, I am posting this here:
https://www.nasa.gov/feature/jpl/study-projects-a-surge-in-coastal-flooding-starting-in-2030s
In the mid-2030s, every U.S. coast will experience rapidly increasing high-tide floods, when a lunar cycle will amplify rising sea levels caused by climate change.
It mentions the US, but this will affect all coastal towns and cities all over the world.
This might explain why a few of us feel the current climate change model projections for rising sea levels and flooding have been too conservative.
I know that one of my favorite places I have visited (from my Deep South roots/home) is the Chesapeake Bay area. I read Misty of Chincoteague as a young girl and was deeply touched by it like so many. One of my bucket list items was to visit Assateague and see the ponies! I was blessed to be able to do that in 2015. It saddens me to see that .... https://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2021/01/05/overall-chesapeake-bay-health-remains-at-d-grade-state-of-the-bay-report-says/
Of course the childhood summers staying with my Grandmother in the Low Country were marvels of the estuaries and the smell of pluff mud strikes a deep cord in me.
@jeanne-mayell I shed a tear reading your amazing report of restoration with the sea grass programs!!! These bays,estuaries are the nurseries for the beginnings of all sea life, numerous birds and others . Tehy also serve as a canary in the mines to warn of coming changes. To know that we have the knowledge and power to restore them is an answered prayer for me!
@lovendures and @polarberry Wondering if the could put that cloth all over Antarctica and Greenland.
I know they have been thinking about using something similar with certain aerosols in the atmosphere, but there is some hesitancy in doing it because Scientists are not sure how dangerous it would be. I can remember reading China either experimented with it already or were thinking of doing it.
@luminous In 2007 Bill Gates funded projects that would explore possible climate solutions by using geo-engineering. There is a project at Harvard that is jointly funded by Gates and Harvard that is gathering data on the interaction of aerosols with the atmosphere to determine how aerosols might work. They are using a chalky dust-like substance and experimenting flying a weather balloon over a small area over the Arctic.
They are not actually going to launch anything large scale, because if they did so, they could do major damage to our already chaotic weather system. You can read about their project in Snopes: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/gates-block-sun/
@luminous In 2007 Bill Gates funded projects that would explore possible climate solutions by using geo-engineering. There is a project at Harvard that is jointly funded by Gates and Harvard that is gathering data on the interaction of aerosols with the atmosphere to determine how aerosols might work. They are using a chalky dust-like substance and experimenting flying a weather balloon over a small area over the Arctic.
They are not actually going to launch anything large scale, because if they did so, they could do major damage to our already chaotic weather system. You can read about their project in Snopes: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/gates-block-sun/
Thanks @jeanne-mayell, I will have a read.
@luminous that is a bit of a disconcerting thought. To ponder how countries around the world are acting/experimenting independently on and with things.. that effect the entire planet. *sigh* Praying that our best and brightest work from around the world work *together* for a global solution that benefits the entire world and her peoples.
Yes, geoengineering is a scary prospect and there are various methods, putting aerosols into the atmosphere to block incoming solar radiation being a major one. Aerosols only stay airborne for a few days so at least the commitment to the process, once they are launched, would be short lived, except for unintended consequences. Paradoxically, aerosols are also a by-product of burning fossil fuels, so reducing certain types of air pollution also allows more solar radiation to warm the earth, on a short term basis. A book for those who are interested:How to Cool the Planet: Geoengineering and the Audacious Quest to Fix Earth's Climate by Jeff Goodell.
I heard Goodell speak once, and he warned of a lack of legal restraints and/or global agreements in regards to both private and governmental experiments of geoengineering techniques.
Sadly, as global warming progresses at what now seems an alarming pace, geoengineering maybe a safety valve that we will need.
@luminous that is a bit of a disconcerting thought. To ponder how countries around the world are acting/experimenting independently on and with things.. that effect the entire planet. *sigh* Praying that our best and brightest work from around the world work *together* for a global solution that benefits the entire world and her peoples.
I agree. And the country that has done more unilaterally to mess up the planet is my own country.
Sadly, as global warming progresses at what now seems an alarming pace, geoengineering maybe a safety valve that we will need.
Yes-- a safety valve or as I see it, a last resort.
The climate system has a zillion moving parts. And we don't even know what they all are or how they affect each other. Throwing one possible remedy out there could have unintended consequences and make things even worse. That's why tinkering with the climate system can only be a last resort.
I remember reading several books by Zechariah Sitchin (one of the better "ancient astronaut writers IMO) probably over 20 years ago. One of the stories was that another civilization came to earth to mine our gold so they could take it back to their home planet and disperse gold dust in their atmosphere to stop their planet from burning up. Sitchin said these stories were written on clay tablets in Sumeria. I've always wondered why of all the metals, crystals,"precious" materials on Earth...gold was always the most revered. It's a story that's stuck with me from many years ago.
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@pegesus I've read all of Mr. Sitchin's books, and while I do think he may have been a bit off on some of the smaller details, I agree that he was probably the closest to finding the actual truth about the history of humanity on this planet. Your post above describing the Annunaki goal of suspending (probably nano)gold particles in the atmosphere of their home planet reminds me of two things that I thought about Mr. Sitchin's work: 1) There's nothing new under the sun, and 2) children often follow in their parents' footsteps, so it wouldn't surprise me if something like that was tried here.
@luminous that is a bit of a disconcerting thought. To ponder how countries around the world are acting/experimenting independently on and with things.. that effect the entire planet. *sigh* Praying that our best and brightest work from around the world work *together* for a global solution that benefits the entire world and her peoples.
Yeah China has already experimented with it. I have read a few news articles about it in the last 5 years. I'm trying to source those again right now, but in most recent years they have been trying all kinds of different things.
Here are examples that talk a little bit about China's weather modification programme and some solar geoengineering proposals:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/dec/03/china-vows-to-boost-weather-modification-capabilities
https://www.sundayguardianlive.com/news/chinas-geoengineering-push-dangerous-region
Solar geo-engineering in particular (proposals not just from China):
This is so inspiring and fills me with hope. In Brazil, a couple planted 2 million trees to restore a dead forest. It now houses more than 500 endangered species. The before and after photos are wonderful.
@raincloud @ana @pegesus @coyote @lovendures