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Will We Solve the Climate Crisis? If so, How?

(@journeywithme2)
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@luminous  that is a bit of a disconcerting thought. To ponder how countries around the world are acting/experimenting independently on and with things.. that effect the entire planet. *sigh* Praying that our best and brightest work from around the world work *together* for a global solution that benefits the entire world and her peoples.



   
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Yes, geoengineering is a scary prospect and there are various methods, putting aerosols into the atmosphere to block incoming solar radiation being a major one. Aerosols only stay airborne for a few days so at least the commitment to the process, once they are launched, would be short lived, except for unintended consequences. Paradoxically, aerosols are also a by-product of burning fossil fuels, so reducing certain types of air pollution also allows more solar radiation to warm the earth, on a short term basis. A book for those who are interested:How to Cool the Planet: Geoengineering and the Audacious Quest to Fix Earth's Climate by Jeff Goodell.

I heard Goodell speak once, and he warned of a lack of legal restraints and/or global agreements in regards to both private and governmental experiments of geoengineering techniques.

Sadly, as global warming progresses at what now seems an alarming pace, geoengineering maybe a safety valve that we will need.



   
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(@jeanne-mayell)
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Posted by: @journeywithme2

@luminous  that is a bit of a disconcerting thought. To ponder how countries around the world are acting/experimenting independently on and with things.. that effect the entire planet. *sigh* Praying that our best and brightest work from around the world work *together* for a global solution that benefits the entire world and her peoples.

I agree. And the country that has done more unilaterally to mess up the planet is my own country. 



   
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@raincloud  Aerosols damage the ozone layer which helps protect us from UV rays.



   
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Posted by: @raincloud

Sadly, as global warming progresses at what now seems an alarming pace, geoengineering maybe a safety valve that we will need.

Yes-- a safety valve or as I see it, a last resort. 

The climate system has a zillion moving parts. And we don't even know what they all are or how they affect each other.  Throwing one possible remedy out there could have unintended consequences and make things even worse.  That's why tinkering with the climate system can only be a last resort.



   
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@elaineg   Depends on the aerosol.  Chlorofluorocarbons (CFC's)-- commonly used as propellants in spray cans-- are the big destoyers of ozone.  But many many other substaces can be aerosolized.  Even water can be an aerosol.



   
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I remember reading several books by Zechariah Sitchin (one of the better "ancient astronaut writers IMO) probably over 20 years ago.  One of the stories was that another civilization came to earth to mine our gold so they could take it back to their home planet and disperse gold dust in their atmosphere to stop their planet from burning up. Sitchin said these stories were written on clay tablets in Sumeria. I've always wondered why of all the metals, crystals,"precious" materials on Earth...gold was always the most revered.  It's a story that's stuck with me from many years ago.

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@pegesus I've read all of Mr. Sitchin's books, and while I do think he may have been a bit off on some of the smaller details, I agree that he was probably the closest to finding the actual truth about the history of humanity on this planet.  Your post above describing the Annunaki goal of suspending (probably nano)gold particles in the atmosphere of their home planet reminds me of two things that I thought about Mr. Sitchin's work: 1) There's nothing new under the sun, and 2) children often follow in their parents' footsteps, so it wouldn't surprise me if something like that was tried here.



   
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Posted by: @journeywithme2

@luminous  that is a bit of a disconcerting thought. To ponder how countries around the world are acting/experimenting independently on and with things.. that effect the entire planet. *sigh* Praying that our best and brightest work from around the world work *together* for a global solution that benefits the entire world and her peoples.

Yeah China has already experimented with it. I have read a few news articles about it in the last 5 years. I'm trying to source those again right now, but in most recent years they have been trying all kinds of different things.

Here are examples that talk a little bit about China's weather modification programme and some solar geoengineering proposals:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/dec/15/china-scaling-up-weather-modification-programme-we-should-be-worried

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/dec/03/china-vows-to-boost-weather-modification-capabilities

https://www.sundayguardianlive.com/news/chinas-geoengineering-push-dangerous-region

Solar geo-engineering in particular (proposals not just from China):

https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2019/03/solar-geo-engineering-may-bring-only-benefits-harvard-study-claims/584551/

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/331657664_Halving_warming_with_idealized_solar_geoengineering_moderates_key_climate_hazards

 

 



   
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This is so inspiring and fills me with hope. In Brazil, a couple planted 2 million trees to restore a dead forest. It now houses more than 500 endangered species.  The before and after photos are wonderful. 

https://www.gtgoodtimes.com/2019/04/24/brazilian-couple-planted-more-than-2-million-trees-to-restore-forest-now-houses-more-than-500-endangered-spesies/

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